importing H265 format video shot by the X-T3 FUJIFILM doesn't work

Sly-Gol wrote on 4/23/2019, 2:25 AM

Hi,

I tried importing video shot by FUJIFILM X-T3 in H.265 format.

The import seems successful ( Vegas Movie Studio didn't complain ) , but when I play it in preview I can only hear the sound and the video is blank.

The video can be easily and smoothly played by windows movie player built in Windows 10.

Any idea what's going on ?

 

Thanks !

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j-v wrote on 4/23/2019, 3:07 AM

Which Movie Studio version and buildnr. do you work with and what is the MediaInfo of your sourcefiles?

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Sly-Gol wrote on 4/23/2019, 3:15 AM

I downloaded yesterday the latest trial version ( considered buying if it fits my needs ) ,
Here's teh media info :

General
Complete name                            : D:\PersonalTmp\2019-04-20 00-22-45-0.MOV
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : QuickTime
Codec ID                                 : qt   0000.00 (qt  )
File size                                : 1.30 GiB
Duration                                 : 54 s 0 ms
Overall bit rate                         : 206 Mb/s
Movie_More                               : FUJIFILM DIGITAL CAMERA X-T3
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-04-16 12:29:59
Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-04-16 12:29:59
Origin                                   : Digital Camera
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Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.2@High
Codec ID                                 : hvc1
Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration                                 : 54 s 0 ms
Bit rate                                 : 203 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 50.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.490
Stream size                              : 1.28 GiB (98%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-04-16 12:29:59
Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-04-16 12:29:59
Color range                              : Full
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.601
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.601
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : lpcm
Duration                                 : 54 s 0 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 2 304 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 24 bits
Stream size                              : 14.8 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-04-16 12:29:59
Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-04-16 12:29:59

Other
ID                                       : 3
Type                                     : Time code
Format                                   : QuickTime TC
Duration                                 : 54 s 0 ms
Time code of first frame                 : 01:34:07:22
Time code, striped                       : Yes
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-04-16 12:29:59
Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-04-16 12:29:59
Bit rate mode                            : CBR

j-v wrote on 4/23/2019, 3:48 AM

I downloaded yesterday the latest trial version ( considered buying if it fits my needs ) ,

There are 3 versions of that program.


You need at least the latest version of Quicktime installation where you try to use that software, because your preview cannot play those files when that codec is missing.

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Sly-Gol wrote on 4/23/2019, 4:02 AM

But is it related to QuickTime ? It's H265 format isn't it ?
I'm using The Movie Studio Suite trial version.

Can you explain which codecs are missing exactly ?

 

j-v wrote on 4/23/2019, 5:31 AM

If you read this you get enough info. It is not only for Vegas Pro but also for Movie Studio

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Sly-Gol wrote on 4/23/2019, 5:39 AM

But where in the file info I sent you do you see my format is quicktime ?

Just because the extension is "mov"?

 

The encoding itself is

Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.2@High

Sly-Gol wrote on 4/23/2019, 6:35 AM

Can you explain how the "general format profile" and the "video format profile" in the media info that I sent are related ?

I'm confused.


 

Chief24 wrote on 4/23/2019, 7:06 AM

Dr. Zen to the rescue, again! From the "Movie Studio Zen" website (creator Derek Moran, a.k.a. Dr. Zen):

Quicktime for Windows

His site is also a great one for Tutorials, Vegas Pro, Movie Studio, etc.

I'll just say, Thanks Doc!

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Sly-Gol wrote on 4/23/2019, 8:01 AM

Still don't understand :(
The video has the following properties-

 

ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.2@High

doesn't this mean the format in HEVC ?

How is this related to QuickTime ?

Sorry for the dumb questions but I'm quite a novice in this area :)

 

 

 

 

Marco. wrote on 4/23/2019, 8:43 AM

Which version and which build of Movie Studio do you use?

Sly-Gol wrote on 4/23/2019, 8:47 AM

Platinum, version 16, built 109

j-v wrote on 4/23/2019, 8:55 AM

Still don't understand :(
The video has the following properties-

ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.2@High

doesn't this mean the format in HEVC ?

How is this related to QuickTime ?

Sorry for the dumb questions but I'm quite a novice in this area

The MediaInfo tells you a lot more

1. The filetype is .mov
2. The videopart is encoded with the heavy HEVC codec
3. The audiopart is encoded with simple the PCM codec
The filetype is a kind of jacket, also called "wrapper" with in it in this case video, audio and some other used things and probably with you it is needed to use the Quicktime codec to unpack all.
 

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Sly-Gol wrote on 4/23/2019, 9:14 AM

I see , so my camera wraps it all up with a Quicktime codec for some reason.. and isn't Movie Studio supporting this "wrapper" ?

 

Marco. wrote on 4/23/2019, 9:19 AM

HEVC is not a Quicktime codec. Movie Studio 16 Platinum supports import/reading of HEVC. Maybe you only need to rename the files from *.mov to *.mp4. Or re-wrap with a tool like FFmpeg.

Sly-Gol wrote on 4/23/2019, 9:27 AM

I tried renaming. It didn't help.
When I import the file to Movie Studio , I do hear the audio but the video is blank. I'll try rewrapping later.. thanks !
 

Musicvid wrote on 4/23/2019, 10:00 AM

It is unlikely that 200 Mbps Hevc will preview smoothly or at all on any but the most robust hardware systems. Are timeline thumbnails being generated?

Which decoder is Vegas using to open the video stream?

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

I don't think you can auto-proxy in your Movie Studio, but making manual proxies or intermediates should be a fairly routine task.

vkmast wrote on 4/23/2019, 10:17 AM

The Movie Studio versions have the same option as VPro in Preferences (Video) to "Automatically create video proxies for Ultra HD media".

j-v wrote on 4/23/2019, 10:18 AM

I don't think you can auto-proxy in your Movie Studio,

Why not?

 

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Musicvid wrote on 4/23/2019, 10:21 AM

Thank you. Erring on the side of caution. So it's worth a try?

Sly-Gol wrote on 4/23/2019, 10:22 AM

Windows plays the files easily and smoothly in my computer.. so why should it be different for Movie Studio in terms of hardware compatibility ?

Musicvid wrote on 4/23/2019, 10:35 AM

Because realtime stream decoders in players use an entirely different architecture than non-realtime decompression by nonlinear editors.

Have you tried a proxy or intermediate?

Another path to try is Import Assist in Happy Otter Scripts.

vkmast wrote on 4/23/2019, 10:35 AM

Referencing "Speaking good video" by @Musicvid

vkmast wrote on 4/23/2019, 10:53 AM

"ps Happy Otter is script based, nice for VPro but useless for VMS."