Let us know if downloadable samples are available somewhere in the web for experiment!

@AVsupport It may not be an issue, after all they are only an all-I and hevc version of xavc-s. Hopefully not as difficult as when GH5 codecs arrived, indeed that same decoder may well be repurposed, i.e. S04 ... dll.

@set Cameralabs, Gordon Laing, usually makes available his samples on Vimeo, for members to download. He is currently testing the camera.

Here is the Vimeo website mentioned above.

https://vimeo.com/user803551

If you're logged into your personal Vimeo account, you can download his source.

If you do plan to republish his media or descriptions in any form, DO ASK PERMISSION FIRST, as I did. He runs a business, and he means business.

And living in Brighton UK, a cup of coffee goes a long way toward good relations.

Thanks @Musicvid
The file crashes my VPro 17, but maybe we will be suprised the next month or so. You'll never know.😶

Like the recent release Panasonic S1H, the Sony A7Siii is the first ever camera in the Alpha series to offer 10-Bit 4K 4:2:2 15stops DR with SLOG3 without pixel binning or line skipping, utilising Venice color science. I would anticipate that, like the Pana, this camera will also receive Netflix (and BBC production) certification. As such, I would see that this camera will be highly sought after by professional content Creators And DOPs alike. Mine is preordered. Magix would be wise to be on the front foot before the shipstorm hits start October, and proactively go out and contact the manufacturer for all the details they need.

I thought we had enough codecs to choke a horse. Anybody know how many there are?

JJK

Magix would be wise to be on the front foot before the shipstorm hits start October, and proactively go out and contact the manufacturer for all the details they need.

How are they supposed to do that?

If anyone has an intel icelake cpu can you see how this file handles in both a media player and in vegas using your intel gpu as decoder. check if hardware decoder is being used

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1r4aheFWaKIXYK8E4ewt132SPySPpRIkN/view?usp=sharing

These are the chip names, only in laptops apparently

This is Resolve Vs Vegas with H264 XAVC-S 422. There is currently and possibly forever no GPU decode support for H264 422 on consumer products so the software must try to get assistance from cuda/openCl (compute) I hope to do new test with VP18 and find it performs much better.

Magix would be wise to be on the front foot before the shipstorm hits start October, and proactively go out and contact the manufacturer for all the details they need.

How are they supposed to do that?

maybe send an email? make a phone call? chase some whitepapers? what do other manufacturers do that release compatible products at the same time? ps, Sony's Remote/Edit/Viewer apps had an update today stating support for A7Siii, perhaps there's some chance for a lookie?

Maybe this comment (esp. 2nd para.) from @VEGASDerek explains something.

I realise Magix is a small company. But in pursuit of codec support, wouldn't you want to deliver progress and satisfy the needs of as big as a customer base as you can? I'd say Red or Blackmagic would predominantly edit on other software, so do the crew that uses Prores codecs mostly who'd rather edit on a Mac for some reason?

I'm sure the dev team does. As explained in the comment.

Thanks @Musicvid
The file crashes my VPro 17, but maybe we will be suprised the next month or so. You'll never know.😶

It seems H264 versions load, but not HEVC, not 422 or 420. HEVC 420 10bit plays in Resolve and also uses GPU hardware decode. I figured Vegas was being extra strict with not allowing pcm audio with HEVC, so I converted only the audio leaving original video. Vegas would then accept the file but it also crashed

@AVsupport Some h264 10 bit here.

given the difficulties the (current) VP17 has with read-ahead (between edits) for 'normal' XAVC-S, I'd be particularly keen to see the new Intra version working, to reduce system load when shooting 10-bit. Alternatively, the new H265 variant with a proxy workflow. Couldn't yet find any of those. anyone does, please post a link

@AVsupport I only downloaded the smallest file C0006.mp4, it's intra.

https://slimdogsproduction.wetransfer.com/downloads/be4e230906d02ad1281aa39cf8a4fe1820200723133445/c42214

The link I previously posted above asking for intel icelake owners to try is to HEVC 422. As said it doesn't load unless I convert audio from pcm to aac. It then crashed. I feel based on the crash it was a simple matter of turning off so4, but that would slow things down even further (as I understand it) and it was already too slow to use (for me) so I didn't bother

ok, so here's what VLC spits out when looking at that 'lesser file size 780 MB 4K / 50p 'Slumdog' clip:

couldn't determine if that's indeed intra...plays allright in VLC (but this isn't an editor, ja) -

8 fps in VP17 on my machine. with so4..

media info shows this information for C0006.MP4

Format                                   : AVC
Format profile                           : High 4:2:2 Intra@L5.2
Format settings, CABAC                   : No
Format settings, GOP                     : N=1
Standard                                 : Component
Color range                              : Full

@Former user

Here's my experience on my 6850/RX480. Mid way I switched to proxies created using HOS.

Our VP's are performing similar, 50fps  4K XAVC S-I and it's not usable, but very different for 25fps  XAVC S-I , quite useable for both of us, . I think we are both 4 cores but my cpu a little slower. There's not that much difference between the the XAVC S and S-I versions editing in transitions are even fine. both play fine at 4k 422 25-30fps, there is maybe 10% more cpu for XAVC S, it's hard to say as I have background programs running at the same time. XAVC-S-I i'm a little disappointed with at the moment

So far my tests with source footage link here Intra 4:2:2 10-bit 4K were all playing fine, and surprisingly nice on a 8-bit FHD timeline with preview on Auto, LUT and grade applied.

The situation degraded quickly when looking at 50p footage, the old read-ahead buffer situation and frame drops in between cuts reappeared quickly.

The HEVC samples from Tony Northrupp (see this thread) crash VP immediately. Funnily enough I can play them fine in VLC, no worries.

I think it's critical for a Video Editor to be able to import and export video files, especially 10Bit HEVC, as I see this as a mainstream contemporary codec. The demand for this I would assume will be big, and I can only urge the VP team to get on the front foot and fix this quickly before the A7Siii arrives beginning October, and not 4 or 5 months later. It's not like this wasn't on the doorstep for the last 4-5 years.. Intel and nVidia hardware support is there, now Your clients need to know that VP support is there, otherwise they might look elsewhere @VEGASHeman