75+ PiP (or Similar) for Virtual Choir?

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Ken-Theriot wrote on 11/30/2020, 6:11 PM

Didn't work.
The ProgramData folder itself seems to be a folder hidden by default. I have all the options selected that make hidden files and folders visible. See this quick video. https://www.screencast.com/t/fqqCVtOpxKt

john_dennis wrote on 11/30/2020, 6:18 PM

Ken-Theriot wrote on 11/30/2020, 6:25 PM

Tried that, too John. See video at link. The only thing that becomes visible is a file called "desktop" https://www.screencast.com/t/NTTRnEOHP3

Ken-Theriot wrote on 11/30/2020, 6:26 PM

I've tried even doing a search of my entire C drive for "Application Extensions" and I get no result. Is there anywhere else I could place the .dll file for it to show up in Vegas Pro?

Musicvid wrote on 11/30/2020, 7:36 PM

Ken, this is the only thing I have done to my Windows 10 folder properties, and I have done so since Vista. I don't know what else to tell you.

vkmast wrote on 11/30/2020, 7:44 PM

Please see from Marco.'s comment down here https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegasaur-split-screen-and-davi-tools-video-wall--123751/#ca773286

 

Musicvid wrote on 11/30/2020, 7:52 PM

Forgot about that, but @vkmast didn't.

Also see the updated link to the extension in the same thread from wwaag here:

https://tools4vegas.com/davitools-videowall-2/

Ken-Theriot wrote on 11/30/2020, 7:55 PM

Awesome. Thanks! Will try that tomorrow.

Ken-Theriot wrote on 12/1/2020, 3:42 PM

Render each source to Magix Intermediate format to prevent the crash trouble.

Set, which MAGIX Intermediate template do I use? There are 15 JUST for 1920x1080. The differences are either the 23.976p all the way to 59.95p, and each of those with options for "Intermediate 422, HQ or XQ.

The source videos I'm working with are mostly 30 fps, but come from different cameras, including iPhones, camcorders, etc.

Ken-Theriot wrote on 12/1/2020, 3:44 PM

vkmast and MusicVid, That worked! The extension is now visible in Vegas under View>Extensions!

set wrote on 12/1/2020, 3:56 PM

Render each source to Magix Intermediate format to prevent the crash trouble.

Set, which MAGIX Intermediate template do I use? There are 15 JUST for 1920x1080. The differences are either the 23.976p all the way to 59.95p, and each of those with options for "Intermediate 422, HQ or XQ.

The source videos I'm working with are mostly 30 fps, but come from different cameras, including iPhones, camcorders, etc.

I go with the closest: 29.97p of Intermediate 422

Also, I personally make sure in File>Properties...> Resample mode is set as 'Disable resample' (and set is as default) to prevent any possible 'blurring' from 'true 30p' to 29.97p.

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Ken-Theriot wrote on 12/1/2020, 4:11 PM

I am doing a test with only 2 videos, and already Vegas is freezing up ever few seconds for about 5 seconds. I'm assuming this is because of the VideoWall. Any advice on why this might be and how to stop it?

set wrote on 12/1/2020, 4:20 PM

is it a temporary freezing or permanent that Vegas needs to be force closed?

I had that too when I zoomed in too much to do the sync-ing work, but after waiting few times, no trouble.

I didn't use VideoWall, so can't comment.

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Ken-Theriot wrote on 12/1/2020, 4:22 PM

Render each source to Magix Intermediate format to prevent the crash trouble.

Set, which MAGIX Intermediate template do I use? There are 15 JUST for 1920x1080. The differences are either the 23.976p all the way to 59.95p, and each of those with options for "Intermediate 422, HQ or XQ.

The source videos I'm working with are mostly 30 fps, but come from different cameras, including iPhones, camcorders, etc.

I go with the closest: 29.97p of Intermediate 422

Also, I personally make sure in File>Properties...> Resample mode is set as 'Disable resample' (and set is as default) to prevent any possible 'blurring' from 'true 30p' to 29.97p.

Thanks. But now I'm a bit confused. This increases the file size massively (from 402 MB to 43 GB! That is clearly unworkable. I don't even have that much free space on my hard drive!

set wrote on 12/1/2020, 4:24 PM

Unfortunately, that's the 'problem' actually. Yes - Large size because Intermediate format is like that.

 

*Apologize🙏 Forgot to give caution first that Magix Intermediate file size is extremely large.

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Ken-Theriot wrote on 12/1/2020, 4:31 PM

is it a temporary freezing or permanent that Vegas needs to be force closed?

I had that too when I zoomed in too much to do the sync-ing work, but after waiting few times, no trouble.

I didn't use VideoWall, so can't comment.

It's temporary. Last hang (maybe a better word) lasted 20-30 [Update: last time it crashed]

seconds. And it only happens if I have started using VideoWall. I made sure I downloaded the MAGIX version. I don't think it works in my version for some reason - not without hangs and crashes. Great idea. Just not workable.

set wrote on 12/1/2020, 4:33 PM

btw... are you sure you are using Intermediate 422 29.97p ?

 

If using XQ or HQ, it's possible that it will goes skyrocket... but, for comparison... here's mine for 19 singers with duration around 1minute 23secs

All sources are AVC and HEVC cellphone.

Intermediate converted 422 29.97p

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RAM: 32.0 GB
OS: Windows 10 Pro Version 22H2 OS Build 19045.3693
Drive OS: SSD 240GB
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System 2-2018:
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RAM: 16GB
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Ken-Theriot wrote on 12/1/2020, 6:21 PM

Were you saying to render each of the 70+ videos? I thought that is what you meant. O I tried to render a single video back out using, yes, Intermediate 422 29.97p.

set wrote on 12/1/2020, 11:04 PM

ah I see what you meant.... I never noticing that.

The estimated size notification give wrong info 🙈

a 1:20 video was estimated as 18GB, but after render results only 1.2GB...

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Video Card 2: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GDDR5 VRAM (Driver Version 537.58)
RAM: 16GB
OS: Win11 Home 64-bit Version 22H2 OS Build 22621.2428
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Ken-Theriot wrote on 12/5/2020, 5:07 PM

@Ken-Theriot

While I am in awe of @set's mastery, the extension I mentioned, DaviTools VideoWall, is super simple to work with and create usable results quickly. It's like playing with kids' building blocks.

Reading your description, I certainly hope all of your participants were singing at the same metronome setting.

http://www.davitools.com/videowall/

VideoWall is freezing and crashing my project. Is there a way to prevent this, that you are aware of. I'd love to use it but simply can't at this point.

Ken-Theriot wrote on 12/5/2020, 9:09 PM

Here is a transparent PNG guide grid that I made using @3POINT method and Photoshop. It has 81, that's 75+, 16x9 windows that you can use as a guide to place each video on a track underneath. At 8K, it should scale and hold you for a while.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jmd0X3MmCrz7qnXmwpLqEHecEX3Mvjd7/view?usp=sharing

John, how did you create that grid in PS. I have it (CC) but I don't know how to make a grid. I'd use yours but it turns out I only need 70 squares. But I'm not sure how to do it.

Musicvid wrote on 12/5/2020, 10:31 PM

@Ken-Theriot

While I am in awe of @set's mastery, the extension I mentioned, DaviTools VideoWall, is super simple to work with and create usable results quickly. It's like playing with kids' building blocks.

Reading your description, I certainly hope all of your participants were singing at the same metronome setting.

http://www.davitools.com/videowall/

VideoWall is freezing and crashing my project. Is there a way to prevent this, that you are aware of. I'd love to use it but simply can't at this point.

I haven't tried anything as big as you are doing, but no, it is not freezing or crashing in VP14. I do have GPU Acceleration of Video Processing turned off, fwiw.

3POINT wrote on 12/5/2020, 10:57 PM

No need for PS, use Cookie Cutter (with showed settings) in Vegas to create grid and Crop Fx together with Pip Fx to crop, size and position your media.

Ken-Theriot wrote on 12/6/2020, 1:22 AM

No need for PS, use Cookie Cutter (with showed settings) in Vegas to create grid and Crop Fx together with Pip Fx to crop, size and position your media.

That's awesome! How did you get the borders to all be the same thickness? Is it just the difference between squares and rectangles? Because this is just what I've done except I used squares.