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A good deal for the price, though only 4 of the ins/outs are XLR, which can be limiting.

This gives you 16 channels of input and 8 channels (up to 7.1) of output.

 

Thanks I saw this one before so it can be any sound card that has 8 output

Or, if you want to go all out, get the Behringer XR18. It is a 18 channel mixer (you can use it as a mixer board for live shows or recording) that also doubles as a 18 channel in OR 18 channel out (each input doubles as an output as well), which lets you expand the number of ins or outs needed as needed.

Thanks I might just get the behringer one 18 channel

A good deal for the price, though only 4 of the ins/outs are XLR, which can be limiting.

Does Vegas Pro have de-click removal plugin

"Does Vegas Pro have de-click removal plugin"

That type of fX has historically been found in Sound Forge, another Magix product. I don't have a recent version so I don't know if the fX would be available in Vegas if a later version of SF was installed.

Seems to be some conflation between encoded surround and discrete multichannel capabilities.

The former is there to play 5.1, 7.1 encoded files, such as Dolby Digital Surround in a movie.

The latter, with one I/0 for each discrete channel, is needed to monitor multichannel pcm from the timeline.

"Does Vegas Pro have de-click removal plugin"

That type of fX has historically been found in Sound Forge, another Magix product. I don't have a recent version so I don't know if the fX would be available in Vegas if a later version of SF was installed.

 

I have sound forge

"Does Vegas Pro have de-click removal plugin"

That type of fX has historically been found in Sound Forge, another Magix product. I don't have a recent version so I don't know if the fX would be available in Vegas if a later version of SF was installed.

 

I have sound forge

Seems to be some conflation between encoded surround and discrete multichannel capabilities.

The former is there to play 5.1, 7.1 encoded files, such as Dolby Digital Surround in a movie.

The latter, with one I/0 for each discrete channel, is needed to monitor multichannel pcm from the timeline.

Please can u all comments on this page please

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https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/how-to-edit-3d-in-vegas-pro--119480/

I thought it was quite clear - and I thank @Musicvid for the clarification because it has brought it home to me. Digital sound like AC3, DD etc occurs only after a render has occurred to create a digital file. The timeline itself is not a digital file, it is PCM or similar. Therefore, the only way to get 5.1 out of the timeline is to connect the front L/R. rear L/R and LFE out of the computer's sound card's analogue connections. Please clarify if I've got it wrong, MusicVid.

I think I said that analog out is required in each of my posts.

I thought it was quite clear - and I thank @Musicvid for the clarification because it has brought it home to me. Digital sound like AC3, DD etc occurs only after a render has occurred to create a digital file. The timeline itself is not a digital file, it is PCM or similar. Therefore, the only way to get 5.1 out of the timeline is to connect the front L/R. rear L/R and LFE out of the computer's sound card's analogue connections. Please clarify if I've got it wrong, MusicVid.

The behringer sound card has 8 output and it says it good for 5.1 at 2:11 3:34

I thought it was quite clear - and I thank @Musicvid for the clarification because it has brought it home to me. Digital sound like AC3, DD etc occurs only after a render has occurred to create a digital file. The timeline itself is not a digital file, it is PCM or similar. Therefore, the only way to get 5.1 out of the timeline is to connect the front L/R. rear L/R and LFE out of the computer's sound card's analogue connections. Please clarify if I've got it wrong, MusicVid.

That's how it was explained to me by Peter (SCS) over a decade ago.

To be clear, Vegas (and ACID) does not stream 5.1 encoded audio to hardware. It outputs 6 audio streams : Front Left, Center, Front Right, Read Left, Rear Right, and LFE. You need an audio hardware device that exposed 6 audio outputs or that supports the Direct Sound standard mapping.

Peter

Many sound cards have discrete multichannel I/O in addition to 5.1/7.1 decoding capabilities.

I thought it was quite clear - and I thank @Musicvid for the clarification because it has brought it home to me. Digital sound like AC3, DD etc occurs only after a render has occurred to create a digital file. The timeline itself is not a digital file, it is PCM or similar. Therefore, the only way to get 5.1 out of the timeline is to connect the front L/R. rear L/R and LFE out of the computer's sound card's analogue connections. Please clarify if I've got it wrong, MusicVid.

That's how it was explained to me by Peter (SCS) over a decade ago.

To be clear, Vegas (and ACID) does not stream 5.1 encoded audio to hardware. It outputs 6 audio streams : Front Left, Center, Front Right, Read Left, Rear Right, and LFE. You need an audio hardware device that exposed 6 audio outputs or that supports the Direct Sound standard mapping.

Peter

Many sound cards have discrete multichannel I/O in addition to 5.1/7.1 decoding capabilities.

 

How to do u request for stuff from magix Vegas Pro

U can include [Feature request] in your Post title to get it better noticed and considered.

U can include [Feature request] in your Post title to get it better noticed and considered.

Can text on this post I made I have some good suggestions

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/how-to-edit-3d-in-vegas-pro--119480/

But hopefully magix see it and someone said something similar on YouTube

There are a few sound cards that support dolby digital live, which takes multichannel sound being output from the system and encodes it to dolby digital upon output, but you don't want to work with already compressed audio if you can avoid it. Best to use analog, especially since an ever-shrinking number of sound chips/cards support DD live.

There are a few sound cards that support dolby digital live, which takes multichannel sound being output from the system and encodes it to dolby digital upon output, but you don't want to work with already compressed audio if you can avoid it. Best to use analog, especially since an ever-shrinking number of sound chips/cards support DD live.

I completely agree! I don't want to listen to my 5.1 timeline live with compressed audio via DD live. I want to monitor my 5.1 timeline live via a PCM DIGITAL connection from my PC to my 5.1 amp. Doing so should be a no-brainer and audio card manufacturers should be climbing over each other to satisfy my insatiable need inexpensively 😜

It would require encoding on the fly and maybe that is the bottleneck, creating a digital encoded multitrack pcm.

It would require encoding on the fly and maybe that is the bottleneck, creating a digital encoded multitrack pcm.

In the broadcast world, a single SDI coax cable carries 16 channels of uncompressed audio without blinking an eye. I'm asking this rhetorically -- is it really that difficult to do the same for only six channels across an HDMI cable?

@Turd said:

"In the broadcast world, a single SDI coax cable carries 16 channels of uncompressed audio without blinking an eye. I'm asking this rhetorically -- is it really that difficult to do the same for only six channels across an HDMI cable?"

From the HDMI Wikipedia page:

"For digital audio, if an HDMI device has audio, it is required to implement the baseline format: stereo (uncompressed) PCM. Other formats are optional, with HDMI allowing up to 8 channels of uncompressed audio at sample sizes of 16-bit, 20-bit and 24-bit, with sample rates of 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, 88.2 kHz, 96 kHz, 176.4 kHz and 192 kHz.[6](§7) HDMI also carries any IEC 61937-compliant compressed audio stream, such as Dolby Digital and DTS, and up to 8 channels of one-bit DSD audio (used on Super Audio CDs) at rates up to four times that of Super Audio CD.[6](§7) With version 1.3, HDMI allows lossless compressed audio streams Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio.[6](§7) As with the Y′CBCR video, audio capability is optional."

At the risk of channeling Debbie Downer, sound card chipset manufacturers probably don't see producers of eight or more channels of uncompressed audio who want to listen to their creations in pristine quality as their primary market. If I had to venture a guess, I'd guess that most of the content in the channels greater than the first stereo pair was synthesized by...

... (enter the 800 lb. gorilla that drives the PC industry).

In a different century I had a "derived" 4 channel speaker setup for a while. When the wife and I moved, life got in the way and I never hooked it up in the new location. That was the end of my interest in more than two channel stereo.