Vegas Pro Vs Resolve

rock-c wrote on 6/14/2020, 10:09 PM

Youtuber Composing Gloves made a compare between Vegas Pro and Resolve. It is pretty good for people to look into different editing work flow through it.

0:00 Intro
0:46 Duel Editor Cursor Workflow
2:03 Importing media
3:23 UI Freezing
4:48 Group Editing
8:36 Shortcuts
10:52 Normalization
14:06 Ripple Editing
17:07 Cropping and Panning
18:55 The crazy way you have to move tracks in resolve
21:19 Text Editing
25:08 Chroma Keying
28:35 Audio Editing
30:44 .mov compatibility
32:39 Files Created
33:41 Indicated loading times
35:03 Data Zoom (into waveforms)
36:49 No Open Project option in Resolve
38:05 Navigation
40:41 Overlapping Event Crossfading
42:20 Outro

Comments

michael-harrison wrote on 6/15/2020, 7:55 AM

@lan-mLMC that's why there are chapters. Skip to the part you're interested in.

System 1:

Windows 10
i9-10850K 10 Core
128.0G RAM
Nvidia RTX 3060 Studio driver [most likely latest]
Resolution        3840 x 2160 x 60 hertz
Video Memory 12G GDDR5

 

System 2:

Lenovo Yoga 720
Core i7-7700 2.8Ghz quad core, 8 logical
16G ram
Intel HD 630 gpu 1G vram
Nvidia GTX 1050 gpu 2G vram

 

andyrpsmith wrote on 6/15/2020, 9:48 AM

Great, I enjoyed playing this to see the differences. Many thanks.

(Intel 3rd gen i5@4.1GHz, 32GB RAM, SSD, 1080Ti GPU, Windows 10) Not now used with Vegas.

13th gen i913900K - water cooled, 96GB RAM, 4TB M2 drive, 4TB games SSD, 2TB video SSD, GPU RTX 4080 Super, Windows 11 pro

RogerS wrote on 6/15/2020, 10:45 AM

Thanks, I was interested to see more of how Resolve works. Vegas is a lot more intuitive to me as well.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD and 2TB Samsung 980 Pro cache drive, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208
VEGAS Pro 22.93

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark (works with VP 16+): https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark (works with VP 20+): https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

Reyfox wrote on 6/15/2020, 1:34 PM

Thanks!!

Newbie😁

Vegas Pro 22 (VP18-21 also installed)

Win 11 Pro always updated

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Gigabyte X570 Elite Motherboard

rock-c wrote on 6/15/2020, 2:34 PM

Pleased to see you like it.

Reyfox wrote on 6/15/2020, 4:02 PM

I thought the comparison was fair. No doubt that VP excels in the way it edits. I've tried Resolve several times, but just didn't like the way it edits. Not that Resolve is bad, just not my "cup of tea".

Newbie😁

Vegas Pro 22 (VP18-21 also installed)

Win 11 Pro always updated

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 cores / 32 threads

32GB DDR4 3200

Sapphire RX6700XT 12GB Driver: 22.5.1, testing 24.7.1

Gigabyte X570 Elite Motherboard

Musicvid wrote on 6/15/2020, 5:53 PM

I fail to see the "vs." thing. Resolve is free so there isn't any competition. I use both on the same projects without judgment.

rock-c wrote on 6/15/2020, 7:21 PM

@Musicvid You are weird but most people can see the "VS" and they two are competitive NLE softwares.

Video_flaneur wrote on 6/15/2020, 8:05 PM

I fail to see the "vs." thing

Maybe the abbreviation c.f. (compared with) would be more accurate. I found the video most helpful. Most of us probably use more than one piece of software in the preparation of our finished videos, and since Resolve is free and extremely good in certain areas, there is no reason not to consider it as an additional tool in our toolkit.

Laptop: Asus W.10, 64 bit, i7-3630QM @ 2.4 GHz; 16 GB Ram, Intel HD Graphics 4000 and NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M

Vegas Pro 19 (Build 643); Vegasaur Toolkit 4.0.1; ProDad Mercall v.4; HitFilm Pro Version 2021.1; Acid Pro 10; Sound Forge Pro 12;

Musicvid wrote on 6/15/2020, 9:46 PM

@rock-c

Witnessing non-binary associations is weird?

I suspect chimpanzees must view bonobos as weird.

 

Kinvermark wrote on 6/15/2020, 11:02 PM

Perhaps the subtlety of your comment was missed by Mr. Rock? Anyway, I agree a comparison rather than a "dog fight" is a good approach.

Begs the questions, however, should Vegas do more to support interaction with software like Resolve, and what ultimately will become Vegas' "voice" in the marketplace. i.e. What should it's unique selling proposition be?

Kinvermark wrote on 6/15/2020, 11:08 PM

As an example of a proactive approach to integration, I would suggest looking at KYNO, a "small" DAM program that can organize media and then send it to various NLE's (Resolve, Ppro, Final Cut, AVID) automatically. It creates named folders and metadata (e.g. tags) in the target NLE. Perhaps this thinking (attitude?) should be adopted by Vegas. Thoughts?

rock-c wrote on 6/16/2020, 3:48 AM

Actually it is very readily comprehensive of the youtuber's "VS": There are two NLEs and compare the two in each same or similar feature. Not necessarily select a winner. That is called VS, very readily comprehensive.

Kinvermark wrote on 6/16/2020, 1:26 PM

Can be "comprehended" or is "comprehensible", but not "comprehensive." (That word means "includes everything.")

Clearly not much point in you arguing about nuances of the English language. Move on to discussing the software please.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 6/16/2020, 2:44 PM

Pretty good feature-for feature shoot out of most of the stuff covered. Though he missed the boat being apparently unaware of Vegas pip-fx thinking images cannot be dragged around on-screen in Vegas as in Resolve. Also barely mentioned color correction which Resolve is known for and Vegas is closing in on. Wish he covered multicam which I've just never been able to work with in Resolve.

rock-c wrote on 6/17/2020, 6:08 AM

Pretty good feature-for feature shoot out of most of the stuff covered.

Indeed.

bitman wrote on 6/18/2020, 2:52 AM

I fail to see the "vs." thing. Resolve is free so there isn't any competition. I use both on the same projects without judgment.

Free, but only if you are happy without proper hardware acceleration support for encoding and decoding, and quite a few other features. That is only in the paid version (which must be said has had free upgrades the last few years once paid...)

https://documents.blackmagicdesign.com/SupportNotes/DaVinci_Resolve_15_Feature_Comparison.pdf

APPS: VIDEO: VP 365 (22 build 93, 21 - build 315), VP 365 20, VP 19 post (latest build -651), (uninstalled VP 12,13,14,15,16 Suite,17, VP18 post), Vegasaur, a lot of NEWBLUE plugins, Mercalli 6.0, Respeedr, Vasco Da Gamma 16 HDpro XXL, Boris Continuum 2024, Davinci Resolve Studio 18, SOUND: RX 10 advanced Audio Editor, Sound Forge Pro 17, Spectral Layers Pro 10, Audacity, FOTO: Zoner, DXO, Luminar, Topaz...

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Kinvermark wrote on 6/18/2020, 12:55 PM

I was hoping to nudge this thread in the direction of "what should Vegas' future position in the marketplace be"?

Price-wise they are hard-up against a free Resolve plus a "free updates" $300 Resolve Studio, but older versions of Vegas can sometimes be had for nearly free ($20) and yearly major updates (to Edit version) for $149 - which is very cheap if you only update every couple of years or so. So I think price is a minor issue.

I think Vegas needs to adopt a more supporting role (see my KYNO example above), but I am clearly biased towards my own workflow. What do you guys think?

rraud wrote on 6/18/2020, 2:00 PM

older versions of Vegas can sometimes be had for nearly free ($20) and yearly major updates (to Edit version) for $149 -

As I recall, the VP upgrade price (from a subsequent version) is only valid for the original buyer,

Kinvermark wrote on 6/18/2020, 2:06 PM

The $20 number comes from previous "Humble Bundle" offers - so you would be the "original buyer" when later you wanted to upgrade.

vkmast wrote on 6/18/2020, 2:08 PM

There's a one upgrade per serial number policy which means that "only one user can make an upgrade from a previous version", i.e. use the serial number to get upgrade pricing.

adimatis wrote on 6/18/2020, 3:45 PM

In my experience, the free version of DaVinci - without full-GPU acceleration - runs a bit smoother than the paid Vegas 17 with GPU engaged.

That is, when Vegas doesn't decide to freeze altogether with GPU turned on.

:) Then Resolve is much smoother...

If GPU will be optimized with the next version, Vegas will have made a very significant step forward. As for now, Resolve is much more advanced in that department.

Also in my experience with the two, the strongest point in Vegas favor is simplicity and quick, logical workflow. The weakest - inconsistent, incomplete and often unreliable performance. Resolve excels with hardware resources utilization and is terribly cumbersome for some of the basic functionality.

I had to split between them. Depending on the project, files and purpose, I use both with a preference for Vegas, due to the familiarity and fast work.